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  • Hallo zusammen,

    ich habe mir heute ein Insanelight Ambilight für meinen TV gekauft.

    Es funktioniert alles bestens, ausser wenn beim TV einen schwarzen Hintergrund leuchtet,

    dann leuchtet mein Ambilight GRüN ?

    An was könnte das denn liegen?

    Ich habe leider keinerlei Erfahrung mit Raspberry.

    gruss Andy

  • ui, sieht schlecht aus. Verstehe nur Bahnhof.

    jedoch konnte ich mit dem Hyperion tool farben wechseln und auch auf schwarz stellen da gehts bestens.

  • ja das stimmt.

    Ich muss mich dann mal mit der Materie auseinandersetzen,

    was ich auch gemerkt habe ist, wenn ich den gelben Stecker vom Grabber (?) aus und einstecke, dann stimmt alles ca 2 Sekunden, danach hat alles wieder einen grün touch.

    evt ein Signalfehler oder so :@

  • ich versteh einfach nicht wieso insanelight etwas verkauft und keinen vernünftige support leistet.

    probier es mit anderen quellen und wenn der fehler weiterhin besteht und mit config nicht zu lösen ist dann lass dir die komponenten tauschen....

  • @poly. das problem ist das wir mit analogem bild arbeiten, und das fällt je nach hardware anders aus...

    wenn du mal hier http://www.rapidtables.com/web/color/RGB_Color.htm bei dem hexwert 000000 eingibst, kommst du auf schwarz... gibst du 000100 ein rutschst du direkt in die grüne farbpallete (rgb halt ...) wenn jetzt der grabber ein etwas helleres bild rausgibt hast du nicht mehr 000000 alles schwarz sondern etwas anderes

    000000 ist ganz links unten...
    001000 ist ganz rechts...also etwas helleres schwarz (dumm gesagt)
    gibst du jetzt 001f00 ein bleibt es rechts und rutscht hoch ins grüne...

    und je nach dem wie die farbauswertung eingestellt ist leuchtet "schwarz" in den meisten fällen grün...

    hoffe ist bisschen verständlich erklärt...deshalb tritt sehr oft die "grüne" farbe bei dunklen szenen auf den leds auf...

    der feine herr spart aber sehr mit seinen infos...keine config, kein screenshot einfach garnichts... da können wir nur rum raten

    Hier war mal eine Signatur.

  • ja das dachte ich vorhin schon. danke dir für den link und die kurze belehrung :)

    insane kann ja schlecht vorrausahnen was und in welcher quality an input da ist. dafür habe ich schon verständnis.

    ich habe selbst beobachtet das es gerne leicht grün flimmert bei schwarzen szenen bei meiner alten config. quasi genau das was du erklärt hast.
    deswegen gibt es auch nicht die "ultimativste" farb config. weil das einfach signalbedingt garnicht möglich ist.


    und zum topic:
    an die mangelnden infos sind wir doch schon gewöhnt, ist ein bisschen wie familienduell xD

  • Ja ich weiss schon dass das nicht so einfach ist, jedoch möchte ich nicht gleich alles verstellen
    und dann geht gar nix mehr.

    Ich habe heute herausgefunden ; sobald ich beim Videosignal (gelber Stecker) also beim mini HD upscaler das Chinchkabel wird das Ambilight rasch gut dh die Farben stimmen und bei schwarz gehts aus jedoch nach ca 2 sek. leuchtet es wieder grün?

    wäre denn das möglich das der upscaler einen wackel oder so hat?

    gruss Andy

  • # uncomment if you get no picture on HDMI for a default "safe" mode
    hdmi_safe=1

    # uncomment this if your display has a black border of unused pixels visible
    # and your display can output without overscan
    #disable_overscan=1

    # uncomment the following to adjust overscan. Use positive numbers if console
    # goes off screen, and negative if there is too much border
    #overscan_left=16
    #overscan_right=16
    #overscan_top=16
    #overscan_bottom=16

    # uncomment to force a console size. By default it will be display's size minus
    # overscan.
    #framebuffer_width=1280
    #framebuffer_height=720

    # uncomment if hdmi display is not detected and composite is being output
    #hdmi_force_hotplug=1

    # uncomment to force a specific HDMI mode (this will force VGA)
    hdmi_group=2
    hdmi_mode=82

    # uncomment to force a HDMI mode rather than DVI. This can make audio work in
    # DMT (computer monitor) modes
    #hdmi_drive=2

    # uncomment to increase signal to HDMI, if you have interference, blanking, or
    # no display
    #config_hdmi_boost=4

    # uncomment for composite PAL
    #sdtv_mode=2

    #uncomment to overclock the arm. 700 MHz is the default.
    #arm_freq=800
    arm_freq=800
    core_freq=300
    sdram_freq=400
    over_voltage=0
    # for more options see http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt


    DIESES HIER ?

  • Aha :D

    // ambi55 120x65 56x30 v0.3 insanelight.de
    // Automatically generated configuration file for 'Hyperion daemon'
    // Generated by: HyperCon (The Hyperion deamon configuration file builder

    {
    /// Device configuration contains the following fields:
    /// * 'name' : The user friendly name of the device (only used for display purposes)
    /// * 'type' : The type of the device or leds (known types for now are 'ws2801', 'ldp8806',
    /// 'lpd6803', 'sedu', 'adalight', 'lightpack', 'test' and 'none')
    /// * 'output' : The output specification depends on selected device. This can for example be the
    /// device specifier, device serial number, or the output file name
    /// * 'rate' : The baudrate of the output to the device
    /// * 'colorOrder' : The order of the color bytes ('rgb', 'rbg', 'bgr', etc.).
    "device" :
    {
    "name" : "MyPi",
    "type" : "lpd8806",
    "output" : "/dev/spidev0.0",
    "rate" : 250000,
    "colorOrder" : "brg"
    },

    /// Color manipulation configuration used to tune the output colors to specific surroundings.
    /// The configuration contains a list of color-transforms. Each transform contains the
    /// following fields:
    /// * 'id' : The unique identifier of the color transformation (eg 'device_1') /// * 'leds' : The indices (or index ranges) of the leds to which this color transform applies
    /// (eg '0-5, 9, 11, 12-17'). The indices are zero based. /// * 'hsv' : The manipulation in the Hue-Saturation-Value color domain with the following
    /// tuning parameters:
    /// - 'saturationGain' The gain adjustement of the saturation
    /// - 'valueGain' The gain adjustement of the value
    /// * 'red'/'green'/'blue' : The manipulation in the Red-Green-Blue color domain with the
    /// following tuning parameters for each channel:
    /// - 'threshold' The minimum required input value for the channel to be on
    /// (else zero)
    /// - 'gamma' The gamma-curve correction factor
    /// - 'blacklevel' The lowest possible value (when the channel is black)
    /// - 'whitelevel' The highest possible value (when the channel is white)
    ///
    /// Next to the list with color transforms there is also a smoothing option.
    /// * 'smoothing' : Smoothing of the colors in the time-domain with the following tuning
    /// parameters:
    /// - 'type' The type of smoothing algorithm ('linear' or 'none')
    /// - 'time_ms' The time constant for smoothing algorithm in milliseconds
    /// - 'updateFrequency' The update frequency of the leds in Hz
    "color" :
    {
    "transform" :
    [
    {
    "id" : "default",
    "leds" : "*",
    "hsv" :
    {
    "saturationGain" : 1.5000,
    "valueGain" : 1.6600
    },
    "red" :
    {
    "threshold" : 0.1100,
    "gamma" : 1.9000,
    "blacklevel" : 0.0000,
    "whitelevel" : 0.6500
    },
    "green" :
    {
    "threshold" : 0.1100,
    "gamma" : 1.8500,
    "blacklevel" : 0.0000,
    "whitelevel" : 0.9000
    },
    "blue" :
    {
    "threshold" : 0.1100,
    "gamma" : 1.8000,
    "blacklevel" : 0.0000,
    "whitelevel" : 0.7200
    }
    }
    ],
    "smoothing" :
    {
    "type" : "linear",
    "time_ms" : 200,
    "updateFrequency" : 30.0000
    }
    },

    /// The black border configuration, contains the following items:
    /// * enable : true if the detector should be activated
    /// * threshold : Value below which a pixel is regarded as black (value between 0.0 and 1.0)
    "blackborderdetector" :
    {
    "enable" : true,
    "threshold" : 0.1
    },

    /// The configuration of the effect engine, contains the following items:
    /// * paths : An array with absolute location(s) of directories with effects
    /// * bootsequence : The effect selected as 'boot sequence'
    "effects" :
    {
    "paths" :
    [
    "/opt/hyperion/effects"
    ]
    },

    "bootsequence" :
    {
    "effect" : "Rainbow swirl fast",
    "duration_ms" : 3000
    },

    /// The configuration for the frame-grabber, contains the following items:
    /// * width : The width of the grabbed frames [pixels]
    /// * height : The height of the grabbed frames [pixels]
    /// * frequency_Hz : The frequency of the frame grab [Hz]
    // "framegrabber" :
    // {
    // "width" : 64,
    // "height" : 64,
    // "frequency_Hz" : 10.0
    // },

    /// The configuration of the XBMC connection used to enable and disable the frame-grabber. Contains the following fields:
    /// * xbmcAddress : The IP address of the XBMC-host
    /// * xbmcTcpPort : The TCP-port of the XBMC-server
    /// * grabVideo : Flag indicating that the frame-grabber is on(true) during video playback
    /// * grabPictures : Flag indicating that the frame-grabber is on(true) during picture show
    /// * grabAudio : Flag indicating that the frame-grabber is on(true) during audio playback
    /// * grabMenu : Flag indicating that the frame-grabber is on(true) in the XBMC menu
    /// * grabScreensaver : Flag indicating that the frame-grabber is on(true) when XBMC is on screensaver
    /// * enable3DDetection : Flag indicating that the frame-grabber should switch to a 3D compatible modus if a 3D video is playing
    // "xbmcVideoChecker" :
    // {
    // "xbmcAddress" : "127.0.0.1",
    // "xbmcTcpPort" : 9090,
    // "grabVideo" : true,
    // "grabPictures" : true,
    // "grabAudio" : true,
    // "grabMenu" : false,
    // "grabScreensaver" : true,
    // "enable3DDetection" : true
    // },

    /// The configuration of the Json server which enables the json remote interface
    /// * port : Port at which the json server is started
    "jsonServer" :
    {
    "port" : 19444
    },

    /// The configuration of the Proto server which enables the protobuffer remote interface
    /// * port : Port at which the protobuffer server is started
    "protoServer" :
    {
    "port" : 19445
    },

    /// The configuration of the boblight server which enables the boblight remote interface
    /// * port : Port at which the boblight server is started
    // "boblightServer" :
    // {
    // "port" : 19333
    // },

    /// Configuration for the embedded V4L2 grabber
    /// * device : V4L2 Device to use [default="/dev/video0"]
    /// * input : V4L2 input to use [default=0]
    /// * standard : Video standard (no-change/PAL/NTSC) [default="no-change"]
    /// * width : V4L2 width to set [default=-1]
    /// * height : V4L2 height to set [default=-1]
    /// * frameDecimation : Frame decimation factor [default=2]
    /// * sizeDecimation : Size decimation factor [default=8]
    /// * priority : Hyperion priority channel [default=800]
    /// * mode : 3D mode to use 2D/3DSBS/3DTAB (note: no autodetection) [default="2D"]
    /// * cropLeft : Cropping from the left [default=0]
    /// * cropRight : Cropping from the right [default=0]
    /// * cropTop : Cropping from the top [default=0]
    /// * cropBottom : Cropping from the bottom [default=0]
    /// * redSignalThreshold : Signal threshold for the red channel between 0.0 and 1.0 [default=0.0]
    /// * greenSignalThreshold : Signal threshold for the green channel between 0.0 and 1.0 [default=0.0]
    /// * blueSignalThreshold : Signal threshold for the blue channel between 0.0 and 1.0 [default=0.0]
    "grabber-v4l2" :
    {
    "device" : "/dev/video0",
    "input" : 0,
    "standard" : "no-change",
    "width" : 360,
    "height" : 288,
    "frameDecimation" : 2,
    "sizeDecimation" : 8,
    "priority" : 800,
    "mode" : "2D",
    "cropLeft" : 7,
    "cropRight" : 7,
    "cropTop" : 1,
    "cropBottom" : 4,
    "redSignalThreshold" : 0.0,
    "greenSignalThreshold" : 0.0,
    "blueSignalThreshold" : 0.0
    },

    /// The configuration for each individual led. This contains the specification of the area
    /// averaged of an input image for each led to determine its color. Each item in the list
    /// contains the following fields:
    /// * index: The index of the led. This determines its location in the string of leds; zero
    /// being the first led.
    /// * hscan: The fractional part of the image along the horizontal used for the averaging
    /// (minimum and maximum inclusive)
    /// * vscan: The fractional part of the image along the vertical used for the averaging
    /// (minimum and maximum inclusive)
    "leds" :
    [
    {
    "index" : 0,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.9658, "maximum" : 1.0000 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 1,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.9325, "maximum" : 0.9675 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 2,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.8992, "maximum" : 0.9342 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 3,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.8658, "maximum" : 0.9008 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 4,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.8325, "maximum" : 0.8675 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 5,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.7992, "maximum" : 0.8342 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 6,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.7658, "maximum" : 0.8008 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 7,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.7325, "maximum" : 0.7675 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 8,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.6992, "maximum" : 0.7342 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 9,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.6658, "maximum" : 0.7008 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 10,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.6325, "maximum" : 0.6675 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 11,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.5992, "maximum" : 0.6342 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 12,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.5658, "maximum" : 0.6008 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 13,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.5325, "maximum" : 0.5675 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 14,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.4992, "maximum" : 0.5342 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 15,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.4658, "maximum" : 0.5008 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 16,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.4325, "maximum" : 0.4675 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 17,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.3992, "maximum" : 0.4342 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 18,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.3658, "maximum" : 0.4008 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 19,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.3325, "maximum" : 0.3675 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 20,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.2992, "maximum" : 0.3342 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 21,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.2658, "maximum" : 0.3008 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 22,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.2325, "maximum" : 0.2675 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 23,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.1992, "maximum" : 0.2342 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 24,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.1658, "maximum" : 0.2008 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 25,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.1325, "maximum" : 0.1675 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 26,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0992, "maximum" : 0.1342 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 27,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0658, "maximum" : 0.1008 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 28,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0325, "maximum" : 0.0675 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 29,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0342 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 30,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0183 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 31,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0174, "maximum" : 0.0362 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 32,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0353, "maximum" : 0.0540 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 33,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0531, "maximum" : 0.0719 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 34,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0710, "maximum" : 0.0897 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 35,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0888, "maximum" : 0.1076 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 36,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.1067, "maximum" : 0.1254 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 37,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.1246, "maximum" : 0.1433 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 38,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.1424, "maximum" : 0.1612 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 39,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.1603, "maximum" : 0.1790 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 40,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.1781, "maximum" : 0.1969 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 41,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.1960, "maximum" : 0.2147 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 42,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.2138, "maximum" : 0.2326 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 43,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.2317, "maximum" : 0.2504 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 44,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.2496, "maximum" : 0.2683 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 45,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.2674, "maximum" : 0.2862 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 46,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.2853, "maximum" : 0.3040 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 47,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.3031, "maximum" : 0.3219 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 48,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.3210, "maximum" : 0.3397 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 49,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.3388, "maximum" : 0.3576 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 50,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.3567, "maximum" : 0.3754 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 51,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.3746, "maximum" : 0.3933 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 52,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.3924, "maximum" : 0.4112 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 53,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.4103, "maximum" : 0.4290 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 54,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.4281, "maximum" : 0.4469 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
    },
    {
    "index" : 55,
    "hscan" : { "minimum" : 0.4460, "maximum" : 0.4647 },
    "vscan" : { "minimum" : 0.0000, "maximum" : 0.0500 }
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  • Befasse Dich mal mit der Screenshotfunktion von Hyperion damit Du siehst was Dein Grabber für ein Bild ausgibt und stelle gleich die Grop-Werte mit ein, steht auch in meiner Anleitung.
    Du hast zwar im "grabber-v4l2" Deiner Config schon Crop-Werte drinstehen, aber besser ist es die selber noch mal anzupassen.
    Und ändere die Werte beim Grabberpart mal auf "width" : -1,
    "height" : -1, und diesen kannst Du normal auch so einstellen "standard" : "PAL",

    Also so...

    Wenn möglich, schließe mal ein Video Signal direkt an den Grabber an, ohne Converter. Und schaue was da passiert.

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